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These informational comparisons show common settings. They carry no safety or quality rating.
Tested using the Hotstart challenger 650
pilot53 shared a new profile for the Bombardier Challenger 650.
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"metadata": {
"title": "CL60_Challenger_650_Pilot53",
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{
"name": "Bombardier Challenger 650",
"kind": "Bombardier Challenger 650"
}
],
"sims": [],
"targets": [],
"hardware": [
{
"name": "MOZA AY210 FFB Base",
"vidPid": "346E:1001"
}
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"createdAt": "2026-09-22T17:11:02Z",
"updatedAt": "2026-10-05T21:30:12Z",
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"description": "Bombardier Challenger 650 profile tuned to match the real world bombardier spring loaded cable to hyd actuator flight control system, including the center cam. Includes a pitch trim vs control force curve as the real jet uses."
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