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Hello, first of all thanks for this preset! Is indeed very accurate. I’d like to share something which I noted. If I follow the stab trim config from FMC (normally between 4 to 5) during take of the pitch goes up very fast. I barely apply force to pitch up, and after rotate I have to pitch down the yoke to stabilize the pitch.. is there something I can do about it?
pilot53 shared a new profile for the Bombardier Challenger 650.
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"title": "CL60_Challenger_650_Pilot53",
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