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Bombardier Challenger 650 X-PlaneCL650

CL60_Challenger_650_Pilot53

pilot53 5,0 / 5 from 1 rating Updated 5d ago

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Carattere

How this profile feels, effect by effect, read straight from the profile JSON.

Spring / centering Strong
Force ceiling Strong
Overall force Minimal
Trim relief Chiaro
G-load Minimal
Runway rumble Minimal
Stall buffet Minimal
Turbulence Minimal
Engine rumble Minimal
Stick-alive Minimal

Unusual settings

Questi confronti informativi mostrano impostazioni comuni. Non hanno alcuna valutazione di sicurezza o qualità.

  • The autopilot follow authority (0.713) is outside the usual range (0–0.5) — strong, but the app will still clamp it safely.

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Cassio 5 / 5 1d ago

Hello, first of all thanks for this preset! Is indeed very accurate. I’d like to share something which I noted. If I follow the stab trim config from FMC (normally between 4 to 5) during take of the pitch goes up very fast. I barely apply force to pitch up, and after rotate I have to pitch down the yoke to stabilize the pitch.. is there something I can do about it?

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Discussion 1

FFB-Bridge5d ago

pilot53 shared a new profile for the Bombardier Challenger 650.

  • Profile: CL60_Challenger_650_Pilot53
  • Simulator: X-Plane
  • Hardware: MOZA AY210 FFB Base

Use this thread to ask questions, share adjustments, and compare how the profile feels.

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Revision history

Revision 1(current)ott 13, 2026 Scarica

Profile JSON

Drop this into FFB-Bridge's profiles folder, or use Download / Copy above.

{
  "formatVersion": 1,
  "kind": "ffb-bridge.profile",
  "id": "prof_b76b7b5628b64a0298e22e10eca0ae62",
  "revision": 25,
  "metadata": {
    "title": "CL60_Challenger_650_Pilot53",
    "aircraft": [
      {
        "name": "Bombardier Challenger 650",
        "kind": "",
        "icao": "CL650"
      }
    ],
    "sims": [],
    "targets": [],
    "hardware": [
      {
        "name": "MOZA AY210 FFB Base",
        "vidPid": "346E:1001"
      }
    ],
    "tags": [
      "CL650",
      "Challenger",
      "Bombardier",
      "Pilot53"
    ],
    "createdWith": "1.6.0-beta.19",
    "createdAt": "2026-09-22T17:11:02Z",
    "updatedAt": "2026-10-13T16:08:04Z",
    "derivedFrom": {
      "kind": "profile",
      "id": "prof_7158e8a4d88741a181bfa353f070a902",
      "version": 16
    },
    "description": "Challenger Jet FFB Profile for the Moza AY210.  Tested and verified with the use of real world challenger maintenance docs and pilot input. Forces, curves, and centering all tuned with the hands on assistance of a world challenger pilot."
  },
  "compatibility": {},
  "modules": [
    {
      "type": "force-model",
      "schemaVersion": 7,
      "data": {
        "SpringResponse": {
          "TravelEnabled": false,
          "Pitch": {
            "Points": [
              {
                "Input": 0,
                "Output": 0
              },
              {
                "Input": 1,
                "Output": 1
              }
            ]
          },
          "Roll": {
            "Points": [
              {
                "Input": 0,
                "Output": 0
              },
              {
                "Input": 1,
                "Output": 1
              }
            ]
          },
          "TrimEnabled": true,
          "Trim": {
            "Points": [
              {
                "Input": -0,
                "Output": 0.75
              },
              {
                "Input": 1,
                "Output": 0.25
              }
            ]
          },
          "Source": {
            "Kind": 0,
            "Name": "",
            "Units": "ratio",
            "Aircraft": ""
          }
        },
        "AdvancedAirspeedResponse": null,
        "Forces": {
          "SpringStrength": 1,
          "SpringDeadband": 0,
          "ForceGain": 0,
          "CruiseSpeedRefKnots": 40,
          "MaxOutputForce": 1,
          "MasterGain": 1,
          "QBlendEnabled": false,
          "QSpringStartKnots": 20,
          "QSpringFullKnots": 60,
          "QSpringMinimumFactor": 1,
          "HydraulicAeroLoadFactor": 0.6,
          "LoadShapingExponent": 1,
          "SpringAirspeedStiffenGain": 0,
          "SpringAirspeedStiffenCap": 5,
          "ElevatorForceScale": 2,
          "AileronForceScale": 2,
          "CenterStartingForce": 0.14863102998696218,
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          "SpringSaturation": 1
        },
        "Ground": {
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          "Rumble": {
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            "MinSinkFps": 1,
            "Gain": 0.88
          },
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            "FullSpeedKt": 90,
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          },
          "Brake": {
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            "FullSpeedKt": 55,
            "BrakeDeadband": 0.07,
            "Gain": 0.29986962190352023
          },
          "Reverse": {
            "MinSpeedKt": 35,
            "FullSpeedKt": 125,
            "Gain": 0
          },
          "NosewheelShimmy": {
            "MinSpeedKt": 40,
            "FullSpeedKt": 110,
            "Gain": 0
          },
          "GroundAccelPitch": {
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            "DeadbandG": 0.03
          },
          "SkidScrape": {
            "MinSpeedKt": 2,
            "FullSpeedKt": 10,
            "MaxSpeedKt": 25,
            "Gain": 0
          },
          "SurfaceScalingEnabled": true,
          "Undercarriage": 0
        },
        "StickFeel": {
          "TrimFeelEnabled": false,
          "TrimFeel": {
            "ElevatorAuthority": 0.2,
            "AileronAuthority": 0.1
          },
          "GLoadEnabled": false,
          "GLoadStiffness": {
            "MinFactor": 1,
            "GGain": 0,
            "MaxFactor": 1
          },
          "DynamicDeadbandEnabled": false,
          "DynamicDeadband": {
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            "FullSpeedRefKnots": 1
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          "ControlEdgeEnabled": false,
          "ControlEdge": {
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            "Gain": 0
          },
          "RateDampingEnabled": false,
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            "RollGain": 0,
            "MaxForce": 0.12
          },
          "StickDropEnabled": false,
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            "Force": 0,
            "FadeKts": 0
          },
          "TrimReliefEnabled": false,
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            "ElevatorAuthority": 0,
            "AileronAuthority": 0
          },
          "HydraulicTrimCenteringEnabled": false,
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            "MaxForce": 0.35,
            "VelocityNoiseFloor": 0.12,
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            "PitchGain": 0.10052219321148834,
            "RollGain": 0.097911227154047
          },
          "StickFrictionEnabled": false,
          "StickFriction": {
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            "PitchStrength": 0,
            "RollStrength": 0
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          "SoftStopsEnabled": false,
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            "Deadband": 0.02,
            "BreakoutTravel": 0.3,
            "BeepTrimRate": 0.25,
            "FollowUpTrim": false,
            "FollowUpRate": 0.15,
            "FollowUpMaxAirspeedKt": 40,
            "FollowUpDeadband": 0.06
          }
        },
        "Aero": {
          "Enabled": true,
          "Stall": {
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          },
          "Overspeed": {
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          },
          "Mach": {
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            "FullMach": 0.11,
            "Gain": 0
          },
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            "FullStddev": 0.32,
            "Gain": 0,
            "AmbientGain": 0.7,
            "VerticalWindGain": 0,
            "VerticalWindStartFps": 1,
            "VerticalWindFullFps": 15
          },
          "Spoiler": {
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            "MinSpeedKt": 80,
            "FullSpeedKt": 230,
            "Gain": 0
          },
          "Flap": {
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            "MinFlapIndex": 1,
            "MinSpeedKt": 120,
            "FullSpeedKt": 177,
            "Gain": 0
          },
          "Gear": {
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            "FullSpeedKt": 250,
            "Gain": 0
          },
          "Etl": {
            "StartKt": 12,
            "StopKt": 24,
            "Gain": 0.35
          },
          "Vrs": {
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            "OnsetSinkFps": 5,
            "FullSinkFps": 15,
            "MinEngineRpmPct": 0.5,
            "Gain": 0.45,
            "MinCollectivePct": 0.4
          },
          "TwoPerRev": {
            "MinSpeedKt": 30,
            "FullSpeedKt": 100,
            "Gain": 0.15,
            "BladeCount": 2
          },
          "Rbs": {
            "VneKt": 130,
            "OnsetFraction": 0.85,
            "Gain": 0.25
          },
          "ShakerEnabled": true,
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          "TurbulenceWindowSamples": 24
        },
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          "Flap": {
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            "Gain": 0,
            "MinKnots": 30,
            "FullKnots": 95
          },
          "Spoiler": {
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            "MinKnots": 60,
            "FullKnots": 220,
            "MinDeploy": 0.05
          },
          "Gear": {
            "Gain": 0.096171802054155,
            "MinKnots": 70,
            "FullKnots": 200
          },
          "Propwash": {
            "Gain": 0,
            "MinRpm": 0.3,
            "WashoutKnots": 90
          }
        },
        "Mechanical": {
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          "GearDeploy": {
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          "FlapStep": {
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          },
          "FlapMotion": {
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            "MinimumPositionDelta": 0.001,
            "PacketHoldSeconds": 0.12,
            "ArrivalSettleSeconds": 0.25
          },
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            "MinimumPositionDelta": 0.001,
            "PacketHoldSeconds": 0.12,
            "ArrivalSettleSeconds": 0.25
          },
          "FlapArrival": {
            "Gain": 0
          }
        },
        "Watchdog": {
          "StaleSec": 30,
          "FadeMs": 500
        },
        "Autopilot": {
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          "FollowSpringStrength": 0.3986988847583643,
          "FollowSpeed": 0.7942396313364056,
          "NeutralHoldEnabled": false,
          "NeutralHoldStrength": 0.6
        },
        "Engine": {
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          "Rumble": {
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            "FullRpmPct": 1,
            "Gain": 0,
            "IdleRoughnessGain": 0,
            "IdleSmoothRpmPct": 0.45,
            "FrequencyAtMaxRpmHz": 0
          },
          "Rotor": {
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            "IdleRpmPct": 0.05,
            "FullRpmPct": 1,
            "Gain": 0,
            "GovernorDroopBelowPct": 0.97,
            "GovernorDroopFloorPct": 0.85,
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          }
        },
        "StickAlive": {
          "Enabled": true,
          "RotationKick": {
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            "PitchGain": 0,
            "RollGain": 0,
            "MaxOutput": 0,
            "DeadbandRadPerSec2": 0.75
          },
          "SurfaceFollow": {
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            "Gain": 0,
            "FullAirspeedKnots": 100,
            "MinAirspeedKnots": 30,
            "DeltaDeadband": 0.05,
            "MaxOutput": 0
          },
          "SideslipCoupling": {
            "Enabled": false,
            "Gain": 0,
            "FullAirspeedKnots": 110,
            "MinAirspeedKnots": 40,
            "BetaDeadbandRad": 0.02,
            "MaxOutput": 0
          },
          "UseSimEngineVibration": false,
          "UseTireLoadThump": true,
          "TireLoadGain": 0.2
        },
        "ControlInput": {
          "Mode": 0,
          "Pitch": {
            "CommandForce": 1,
            "ForceDeadZone": 0.05,
            "Travel": 0.25,
            "Positive": null,
            "Negative": {
              "CommandForce": null,
              "ForceDeadZone": null,
              "Travel": 1
            },
            "PositiveCommandForce": 1,
            "NegativeCommandForce": 1,
            "PositiveForceDeadZone": 0.05,
            "NegativeForceDeadZone": 0.05,
            "PositiveTravel": 0.25,
            "NegativeTravel": 1
          },
          "Roll": {
            "CommandForce": 1,
            "ForceDeadZone": 0.05,
            "Travel": 0.25,
            "Positive": {
              "CommandForce": null,
              "ForceDeadZone": null,
              "Travel": 1
            },
            "Negative": {
              "CommandForce": null,
              "ForceDeadZone": null,
              "Travel": 1
            },
            "PositiveCommandForce": 1,
            "NegativeCommandForce": 1,
            "PositiveForceDeadZone": 0.05,
            "NegativeForceDeadZone": 0.05,
            "PositiveTravel": 1,
            "NegativeTravel": 1
          },
          "OverRangeCue": true
        },
        "Hydraulics": {
          "LossLoadIncrease": 0
        },
        "ControlSystem": 2
      }
    }
  ]
}