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Feedback & bugs

Autopilot full range

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#1

I've just started using this software and trying to get a feel for it. I think it does a lot of things better than the Moza software. Looking great so far.

One thing I don't understand is why the yoke movement is limited when the autopilot is engaged? I'm flying the Cessna Caravan and the yoke should follow the full movements of the in-sim yoke. The movement is barely noticeable.

Why is that?

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#2
In reply to Atrenar's post

In beta 14, this limit is raised to 50 % - https://ffb-bridge.com/beta

It has to be somewhat limited because otherwise, MSFS reads the movement and that disables Autopilot. It goes like this

AP ON -> Yoke moves past a certain threshhold -> MSFS sees movement and thinks use moved it -> AP OFF

If I want to prevent this, I need to take over the joystick completely, and present a virtual joystick to MSFS. And that requires other things (hardware driver certification, for one).

However, the current 8% limit is too tight. 50% in the latest beta gives you plenty of options in different plans to dial it in just right - just below the threshold where MSFS decides to disable AP. Try it out and tell me if this is better

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#3

I tested this out. Thank you for making the change. Unfortunately, it's not really usable. Now, the yoke will turn in the correct direction with a good amount of travel, but the in-sim yoke turns in the other direction, and the plane goes into a spin and crashes.

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#4

Interesting that it goes opposite - can you submit a support bundle? This feels like an inversion issue, which is usually easy to fix.

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#6

I'm using the Moza AY210.

Note, this only happens in flight. On the ground, the Moza and in-sim yoke are in sync.

What do I need to do to submit a support bundle?

Thanks!

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#7
In reply to Atrenar's post

50% is the ceiling of the range, not a recommended setting — the usable value is the highest one that doesn't disturb the AP's flying. On the Caravan I'd start around 10–15% and walk it up until you see the in-sim yoke start to react, then back off.

A support bundle would still help me confirm from the logs: in FFB-Bridge go to Support → Diagnostics → Export support bundle, save the zip, then submit it with a short description at https://ffb-bridge.com/feedback (the Diagnostics page has a button that takes you there). Do that after you replicated the behaviour in sim, but before you quit FFB-Bridge.

Mention "AY210 AP Follow" so I can match it to this thread.

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#8

Hey try the new version 1.4 beta 2. Am testing something that could fix this.

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#9

Thanks. I uploaded the support bundle with the authority set to 20%, but it seems like anything above 8% causes the issue. At least on the Cessna Caravan. This is with the 1.4 beta 2.

I don't understand how all of these systems work together, so this might be a dumb question, but is it not possible to use the position of the yoke in the aircraft to drive the Moza yoke position? I wonder how the cockpit software is doing it without fighting the sim's AP?

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